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British Bikes / Re: “Star” motorcycles
« Last post by 33d6 on March 11, 2026, 09:04:48 AM »
As you say Leon, interesting reading. I’d hate to be an accountant trying to make sense of all the financial shenanigans in and around the various Williams family members. They all looked out for each other and equitably shared out the proceeds but what a tangle.
I too would like to read the next few pages.
And Reg got his dates a little wrong with the Villiers factory in Ballarat. Was set up in the mid-50’s just in time to greet the Japanese coming into the market. As we know, it didn’t end well for Villiers.
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British Bikes / BSA B31 Timing Inner Cover
« Last post by ramwing7 on March 10, 2026, 04:56:48 PM »
I set out to replace the speedo drive bushing and what seemed to be a simple task suddenly isn't.  It seems as if some goober has totally destroyed the retaining pin that holds it in.
If I remove the inner timing cover will I be able to get to the bushing and replace it?

If the answer to that is yes, the next question is how do you get the thing off?
So far I've only found two screws toward the back that seem to hold it on.  That doesn't seem right.

In the attached pic, what must come off to get this plate off?  My parts manual leads me to believe that the shifting mechanism stays in one piece.  Do I remove all the kickstart mechanism?
My shop manual says refer to a BSA dealer.  Those folks are far and between these days.

Any and all help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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British Bikes / Re: “Star” motorcycles
« Last post by cardan on March 10, 2026, 03:18:23 AM »
33d6 - I sent you the text version of the article by PM.

I love that the Williams boys were "half cousins" with S. L. (Les) Bailey of Douglass: explains a lot!

Leon
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British Bikes / Re: “Star” motorcycles
« Last post by 33d6 on March 10, 2026, 12:38:10 AM »
At least one Villiers powered Star survives (sort of). I saw it for sale at the VVMCC Scoresby Swapmeet a few years back. Supposedly restored it wasn't done well plus the original Mk XII-C engine had been swapped out for an earlier MK VI-C retrieved from an Atco lawnmower. 
I've long since learnt it never goes down well telling a hopeful owner that his exotic and rare early Villiers engine is in fact a rather common lawnmower engine. Yes the MK VI-C was only used in motorcycles for 1923 but it survived for many many years afterwards for lawnmower use. Anyway, a surviving Star with incorrect engine is better than no Star at all. I hope its still around.

I too found the Williams notes fascinating and the Velo remarks do tie in well with Phil Irving's autobiography but reading them was a pain as when expanded the page was too big for my computer screen. Manoeuvring them around to read was a pain and I probably missed a few of the more subtle points. Pity about that. 
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British Bikes / Re: Malvern Star
« Last post by cardan on March 08, 2026, 09:32:29 AM »
Not for me, personally.

Elsewhere in the Malvern Star front, I recently came across two frames that I think might be Malvern Stars from the Tom Finnigan era - pre 1920! The bicycle guys have found that Tom Finnigan used the prefix TF on his bicycle frames, so when there are two surviving motorcycle frames (albeit rather different) with prefix TF1... fair guess that they're Malvern Stars? One frame is very AG Healing (Melbourne), and both frames are Aussie built.

Leon
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British Bikes / Re: “Star” motorcycles
« Last post by cardan on March 08, 2026, 09:16:13 AM »
Thanks - that's very interesting: memoirs like this from people who were actually there are rare, and give us an insight into the non-public goings-on in the industry. The downside is they are often written down late in life when the memory is not quite tip-top. But here Reg Williams gives it a red-hot go and paints an interesting picture. There are a few puzzling bits: in particular the reference to Wolf doesn't fit in with anything I've seen about Williams, but perhaps it's just a mis-remembering of Sun. (In the 1930s it was Bennett and Wood who, in Sydney, brought in Wolf bikes/sets, which they sold as the B&W Wasp and Hornet.)

Page 3 ends half way through a sentence - have you got the next page?

Cheers

Leon
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British Bikes / Re: “Star” motorcycles
« Last post by Ozziebsa on March 08, 2026, 12:30:40 AM »
There's little evidence that Villiers engines were built into locally made frames though.
Photos of any such assembly are in very short supply - even from makers who were reputed to be doing this ???
Full imports seems to have become the norm in the 1930s and postwar ?

Yes I agree. Mind you, in the 1930s very few Australian firms claimed to be building their own Villiers lightweights. Perhaps only Acme (Bennett & Wood), and I suppose I believe them. The others - Star, Essex, Simplex, Utility, Waratah, B&W Wasp, B&W Hornet, Utility, Cottman Colt (RE), and probably more - were very likely just rebranded imports, although I have an open mind if more info comes to light. It's not very glamorous, but it is part of the story.

Leon

The accompanying notes appear to be an interview with Reg Williams by Peter Jones sourced from his National Library boxes of materials. Reg Williams mentions the Wasp in particular. I am not sure if Peter Jones ever published this anywhere.
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British Bikes / Re: Malvern Star
« Last post by R on March 06, 2026, 09:40:49 PM »
I reckon he was just fishing for offers, and aimed big.
Its been up for a while

A bit of quick assembly, "barn find as found" ?
If it was all there...


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British Bikes / Re: Waratah article
« Last post by R on March 06, 2026, 09:35:07 PM »
That makes 2 of us - spent my $15 and was rewarded with a single page that could have been improved by consulting here.
Ah well, makes for bumper profits on the 1st issue under new management. ??

We'll see if we can tap into that missing page.

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