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British Bikes / Re: ACME aussie bike
« Last post by 33d6 on May 31, 2025, 03:58:40 AM »
It’s a fine line between ‘manufacture’ and ‘assemble’. Acme erected their own frame. Who made the tubing? Who made the lugs? I would expect Australian made tubing, but what about the lugs? Did buying the Webb forks include the headstock lug? I don’t know.
What about the wheels? The hubs were imported but what about the spokes and rims? I would expect spokes to be made locally but what about the rims? Dunlop were popping them out by the gazillion. Could local manufacture compete given the economies of scale?
So it goes on.
What Bennet & Wood did was no different from many other small motorcycle factories of the time. Lots of proprietary parts but their own vision. I’ll accept ‘maker’.

Last thing. The prewar Acme silencer was merely a Coventry Eagle job mounted upside down. Postwar C/E were gone but there was now a thriving local aviation industry looking for work. Pressing out Acme silencer halves was no different to pressing out lightweight aeroplane bits and pieces. Problem solved.
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British Bikes / Villiers XIIC 148cc doesn’t run anymore
« Last post by Albion EJ on May 30, 2025, 03:41:36 PM »
Need help!
My Villiers XIIC 148cc long stroke engine has been running briefly and then it has no stroke. I have already done all sorts of things; replaced gaskets, new spark plug, reset timing, had cylinder loose, disassembled carb etc.
What is striking is that even after many start requests, the spark plug is not wet. Carb is a 1 1/8" Villiers with needle adjustment, needle 4.5 and nozzle 2, so should get quite a bit of petrol.

But what am I overlooking? Is it sucking in false air through the bronze bushings on the crankshaft?

Any tips welcome as I don't know any more.

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British Bikes / Re: ACME aussie bike
« Last post by cardan on May 30, 2025, 01:19:41 PM »
The booklet "The Story of Bennett and Wood Pty. Ltd." was published in 1949, the year that the company's own Acme motorcycle gave way to the BSA Bantam. Unsurprisingly, the Acme motorcycle is not mentioned at all. But they do comment that the motor cycle factory was established in Wentworth Ave "over ten years ago" - say around 1938/9 - which ties in nicely with the beginning of Acme production for 1939. They could enamel sheet metal (see attached), they had a plating works (shown plating handlebars that they presumably made), they had frame jigs and brazing in the Speedwell Cycle Factory, and a huge spare parts and accessory department. In a nutshell, I believe that they did "manufacture" the Acme motorcycle.

Leon
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British Bikes / Re: ACME aussie bike
« Last post by cardan on May 30, 2025, 12:17:32 PM »
The building on the left is Bennett & Wood's "Motor Cycle Factory and Repair Centre", in Wentworth Ave, Sydney, as it was in 1949, at the end of Acme production. Sadly no photos found of the Acme production line (if there was one).

Leon
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British Bikes / Re: ACME aussie bike
« Last post by cardan on May 30, 2025, 11:01:45 AM »
I've looked pretty hard, but I have no direct evidence of local manufacture. However if a local firm of repute (like Bennett & Wood, one of the best known cycle/motor houses in Sydney for 50+ years) say that their bike is "Manufactured in Australia" there's every chance they are not lying. Simply not worth making something like this up if it isn't (largely) true.

There are comments in the 1939 press like, "... an unusually large proportion of the Acme motorcycle has been locally built" and "In appearance, this newcomer, with its Australian-built frame, is "easy" to look at."

It wouldn't surprise me if the frame was locally built, and maybe guards, tank, spokes, rims, handlebars, levers,... leaving the engine/gear unit, fork, saddle, lights... imported from the UK, then the whole thing assembled here? More or less.

We mustn't forget that there was active industry in Australia at the time. Beginning around 1940, for example, Tilbrook in Adelaide made a wide selection of parts and accessories for motorcycles.

But yes, it would be fun to know exactly what went on!

Leon


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British Bikes / Re: ACME aussie bike
« Last post by R on May 30, 2025, 05:31:52 AM »
Seems Bennett and Wood were also agents for James.
Maybe someone mixed up the orders that day ...

Full bike view - prewar
https://bikeshedtimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Screen-Shot-2025-05-05-at-2.53.56-pm.png
and postwar.
https://cdn.justauto.com.au/ad-assets%2Fc686a88b-3a6e-4b19-b78d-5dbd49c12f60-xlg%2Fc686a88b-3a6e-4b19-b78d-5dbd49c12f60-xlg.jpg

P.S Can anyone find any pics/evidence of local manufacture ?
B&W show some pics of local bicycle making, and the factory it was done in.
But nothing of motorcycles  ?
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British Bikes / Re: ACME aussie bike
« Last post by cardan on May 30, 2025, 04:50:36 AM »
And of course the exhaust system as shown on the Powerhouse example is straight James ML...

Yep, but the real Acme setup was different: teardrops pre-war and rayguns post-war.

Leon
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British Bikes / Re: ACME aussie bike
« Last post by cardan on May 30, 2025, 04:38:21 AM »
Unlike Williams Bros' Waratah, Bennett & Wood's Acme probably had a decent amount of Australian content. At least if claims in the contemporary press are to be believed.

In particular, the frame was said to be made in Australia. This is possible: I've not seen a British lightweight with a frame of the Acme design. Happy to be proved wrong!

Leon
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British Bikes / Re: ACME aussie bike
« Last post by R on May 29, 2025, 10:47:54 PM »
It’s a hobby and people pursue hobbies for fun.
If you’re not enjoying it why are you doing it?

Aye !
But thats when you see "abandoned project for sale" "spent $x asking $y"

Where x is greatly more then y
And you ask yourself y did they do that !
As the saying goes - one mans folly is anothers bargain.

A roundabout way of saying keep it as is. ?
I'd have trouble living with that seat but ...

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British Bikes / Re: ACME aussie bike
« Last post by 33d6 on May 29, 2025, 04:04:58 AM »
The tank is right and the joy of these little lightweights is that they are made up from proprietary parts from a multitude of different firms. What parts of an Acme were actually made by Bennett & Wood? Very, very little.
It’s not like finding all the parts for a 1947 Norton or Triumph where you always have some numbnut looking over your shoulder saying things like “Oohh, you’ve got a chrome plated giggle pin there. They didn’t do that until engine number such and such.” Or some other equally tomfool remark. No one ever looks at an Acme in that way.
Yes, it’s no cheaper to restore a lightweight than anything else. So? What’s the problem? It’s a hobby and people pursue hobbies for fun.
If you’re not enjoying it why are you doing it?
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