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European and Other Bikes / Whats this engine in 1930's Monet Goyon
« on: January 15, 2018, 07:02:34 PM »
Hi, In my garage I have this old French bike. Its a 1930 Monet Goyon S17 with a incorrect tank on. Never really do much with it but I sort of like it. I have never been able to find out what the engine is. Its not correct for the bike as been on the French MG site in the past. No one there could ID it. I was told when I bought the bike it was a Villiers 250R, have not been able to find that engine ether and it looks a bit small to be 250 but have not had it apart to sure. Its a twin port with a nice bronze Amac carb. The exhaust connections at the head are screw threaded. The number I can see is very worn. Any ideas ? 

European and Other Bikes / Re: Bench starting Zundapp Bella engine
« on: January 11, 2018, 07:46:42 PM »
Hi John and others. Thanks for your advice. I have the condenser in my hand as am typing. Looks just like any other condenser at about 1.5" long though feels heaver than a small old one I found in my old parts from something or other, probably also faulty :) It has a number on it ZK034 / 46Z  2L would anything there point to how many microfarad it is or is that just a old part No ? We have a bike garage in town and will pop by tomorrow though will never find a exact match.
        Cheers, jon

European and Other Bikes / Re: Bench starting Zundapp Bella engine
« on: January 11, 2018, 04:30:03 PM »
Just given it ago with live to the blue connection and neg to engine. Big spark breaking out at points but no spark at plug or even just end of lead. I am guessing this will be pointing to a faulty condenser as I think have had problem on something else like this before with very big spark at points and nothing showing at plug. Did put a meter on end of plug lead and do get a reading when kicking it over but not much and no spark so back to my other question can I use pretty much any condenser that will fit ?
 Cheers, Jon

Identify these bikes! / Re: Old monstrosity form a scrap yard needs ID
« on: January 11, 2018, 03:50:36 PM »
I do not know what it is but if it was near me i would have to save it. Maybe worth something or nothing but I would find a place for it :)


European and Other Bikes / Re: Bench starting Zundapp Bella engine
« on: January 11, 2018, 03:18:11 PM »
Na, but would be good to know. bike was off road for years but engine looks like it was rebuilt and not run. Its still in frame but everything else is off so would like to see if it at least runs and go through gears before i pull it out and get frame powder coated. I must admit to me this generator looks very neat and unlike my other old 2 strokes do not have to contend with it demagnetizing :)
Would like to replace the condenser as the one on there has a dent in so may of been damaged, am I correct in that there is not any difference between a 6v an 12v one ? its a single wire condenser so if I get one of the same size so it fits in casing will this be OK ? Will try this one first but it looks to me to be the old 1955 one so may well be down by now.

European and Other Bikes / Bench starting Zundapp Bella engine
« on: January 11, 2018, 02:17:57 PM »
Hello. Hopefully this is a easy question for people with electrical circuit ignition experience. I would like to start this engine without any of the bikes wiring in place. It looks and hopefully is simple. Really all connections are in generator case. First Bella's need a battery to start unlike most 2 stroke engines. There are only 3 connections in generator. As far as I can work out 1 is for lighting and battery charging and one or is it 2 for starting. The engine earths through frame of bike so as its 6v do I just need to connect live battery wire to the blue wire connection No 15 or Do I need to connect it to the red wire connection No 30/51 as well ? I would think it would then run battery neg connected on engine ? Though battery would run down after some time ? Can you also see from my drawings how battery charges, is it just through the green wire via the cut out reg that is fitted also in the generator ? It all seems really neat without having to have all sorts of electrical fittings all over the bike just the switch and lights. Hope someone can help so a I can run up the engine to see it runs before continuing with the restoration. Cheers, Jon.

The Classic Biker Bar / How much was a years road tax in 1981 ?
« on: February 16, 2017, 02:05:13 PM »
This will tax the minds :) Unless you have a disc from this eara. I have have one of these modern repro discs to stick on a 200cc bike. Its a 1982 expiry disc so what would of been 12 months road tax if it was bought in 1981. Want to fill it in right as if i dont i am sure at a bike show someone will point it out I have it wrong :)

Identify these bikes! / Re: Triumph 5ta 1960
« on: January 01, 2017, 10:37:35 PM »
What ever it is I think you have a problem at some time coming with the DVLA. Sounds like the bike has just had the doc plates put on it. Its not nicked is it ?

European and Other Bikes / Re: Zundapp Bella
« on: December 31, 2016, 03:29:25 PM »
I probably have a lot of the bits you discarded hanging in one of my lock ups. I have around 4 or 5 sets of steel tubs and 2 sets of glass ones. Again beauty is in the eye of the beholder as I think its a great looking bike and a really great ride.
Na, it was good old British pound notes. Does not say what they sold it for or if it has sold. Its celebrity status giving the mark up. I could of had nearly 30 Bellas for that amount as mine was cheap at quite bit less than a grand :).

European and Other Bikes / Re: Zundapp Bella
« on: December 31, 2016, 12:08:05 PM »
I have just done google search and found my model, though still shows port holes for sale in a London dealer. They are asking a whopping 20K for there non running bike. The only difference I can see is the bike they have was used on a Oasis album cover :). I will stick it next to my bathtub speed twin as that sort of looks like a scooter ;)
       Cheers, Jon

European and Other Bikes / Re: Zundapp Bella
« on: December 31, 2016, 10:14:50 AM »
Its a 55 R200 model with the 200cc and twin seats. Slightly different body work to the single buddy seat model as the vent is part of the seat support. has the horn on the front, I see some have there,s hidden away. It does not have a electric start only the kick start. It missing some trim, oddly most seem to have the port holes on the side like the Maico Maicoletta  but mine does not and do not think it ever has. A bit odd as unable to find a picture of one with no port holes on. As you say whats not to like? The cast alloy wheels are a very nice touch :). We hunt out that book.
             Cheers,  Jon     

European and Other Bikes / Re: Zundapp Bella
« on: December 30, 2016, 03:34:18 PM »
You guys should take it easy. We don't want yet more people popping off due to getting there knickers in a twist. If you check your karma its obvious to see not many people take a blind bit of notice as to what you have to say. As to the more helpful info you did pass on and I managed to gleam from your posts, well thanks :).
Now go and have a beer and put your feet up.

European and Other Bikes / Re: Zundapp Bella
« on: December 30, 2016, 12:13:51 AM »
Thanks for that. I have already sent mail off to most of what you linked but no reply's, maybe as its over the Xmas period. From what I can tell from what I have a ZB is a very well engineered bike. Many cast parts and thick well pressed steel bits. I can see why to many they are regarded as the best of all the scooters. I am not able to comment on the ride. It looks and feels much better than a Vespa I have had in the past and also would seem to be a lot more for the money than many labros. I am looking forward to getting out and about on it, it will take its place along side all my other vintage bikes. I would like to know why you would not want one? Is it just scooters in general or is it a German or non British thing you have?
       Cheers, Jon   

European and Other Bikes / Zundapp Bella
« on: December 29, 2016, 04:22:45 PM »
Hi, Bought myself a Bella for my xmas present. Never had one before and not really looked closely at one. It was cheap and in need of some restoration. Its missing a few bits. Does anyone who frequents this site have one? Even though there seem to be quite a lot out there its quite difficult to find out much info on them. Seem to be a big German club but not much of a UK one. Sent off a few emails to what I have found but no one has come back to me :(
 Cheers, Jon 

European and Other Bikes / Re: Zundapp Bella
« on: December 23, 2016, 03:03:55 PM »
I have also just got a Bella. Your photos should come in handy for me. Cheers. Would like to see the finished project.

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