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British Bikes / Re: What years of bike are concidered vintage
« on: June 20, 2015, 08:55:39 PM »
 i agree with all the above in various degrees, the words classic, and vintage are will overdone and indeed abused.
Take no notice
Insurance will accept anything over 25 yrs old as 'classic' but  not,in my experience t if it's your everyday vehicle, my little used Morris 1000 is 'classic' but my 26 yr old Peugeot 205 isn't.

I thnk the reason pre 1930s bikes are so little seen is for several reasons, some owners are too old to ride much, modern traffic is just too intolerant of them, and on this island theres not much scope for a quiet run-out on one's own. Not where i live anyway.

Tomorrow though is the Banbury run where a good few not so rich riders will give their pre 1930 stuff a good outing.
I try to get out on my 1929 Sunbeam on quiet weekdays in between the school run idiots and rush hours. A lot easier now the need for an MOT has been lifted.

Just ride your Bantam, and enjoy it.

British Bikes / Re: What years of bike are concidered vintage
« on: June 20, 2015, 10:11:17 AM »
thinking like that you probably are.

The rigid rules set out years ago are
veteran up to 1914, vintage up to 1930, up to 1945 [i think] post vintage

anything after that is an old bike. this 'classic' nonsense was dreamed up  by folk who want to unload old tat at a premium;which seems to have worked. A bit like the car dealer spiel that will call a 8 year old Audi or whatever, an 'emerging classic'

For many of us that ride  bikes in the former categories  a 1970 bike is more or less a new one.

I suspect your bike is older than you? If so then you are in the right place, but classic is not what I'd label a 1970 Bantam even though having had a few, I have nothing against them.

If you look through older posts here you'll see there is no discrimination.

There is a BSA club, the British two stroke club, don't know if there is a dedicated Bantam site.

British Bikes / Re: Royal Enfield fishtail silencer 1931 wanted
« on: June 17, 2015, 09:36:45 PM »
this chap might be worth a try


British Bikes / Re: any vintage sunbeam fans on here?
« on: June 15, 2015, 06:22:03 PM »
The 500 quid I quoted was from a guy in the wilds of Scotland, Orkney or somewhere who has made the odd batch;

Seems to be respected by the Marston crew.

British Bikes / Re: any vintage sunbeam fans on here?
« on: June 15, 2015, 02:39:23 PM »
Bob Metson is correct I think, in sussex somewhere?

On my 1929 they are quite thin and not butted, I still have original spokes.

If no clutch stop fitted, practice your hand gear changing ::) those gear box innards are 500quid if you need to get a  new set

British Bikes / Re: any vintage sunbeam fans on here?
« on: June 15, 2015, 01:12:19 PM »
You'd be hard pressed to get Surflex inserts for a Sunbeam clutch; as Cardan says nothing wrong with cork, Sunbeam ones are small and round about the diameter of an old sixpence.

Mine were done by a chap who advertised in OBM, he specialised in just recorking. I have had no reason to look at them since. No idea if he's still around but someone will know.

Your Model 10 will just about pull the skin of a hard rice pudding so power  need doe's not come into it.

I also find a cork clutch to be quite sweet in action, but maybe thats just me.

If I were you I'd research setting the clutch stops up properly, and a picture of whatever horrors you find would be  interesting

British Bikes / Re: any vintage sunbeam fans on here?
« on: June 15, 2015, 10:22:55 AM »
You'll not find anyone with a greater depth of knowledge about  pre-war Sunbeams than Bob C-C.

Both his books are about but at wildly varying prices; When buying the ' Illustrated History' watch out for poor binding, its poorly produced and prone to falling apart, at least mine has.

I doubt even the VMCC has any more guff  re Sunbeam than Bob has written; the pitman book is but  a guide only,
Meanwhile I found this on U tube which is handy,

Its worth while learning to set the clutch up,   and get the plates re corked; on my Model 1 I also got the clutch spring studs made larger, a worthwhile mod.

I see you have also found the yahoo group site, be nice to liven that up a bit.

British Bikes / Re: any vintage sunbeam fans on here?
« on: June 14, 2015, 06:30:58 PM »
Heres the model 10 from  Bob Cordon Champs book, coil not hairpin springs.

yours doesn't look so far off.

British Bikes / Re: any vintage sunbeam fans on here?
« on: June 14, 2015, 02:38:01 PM »
I don't know my Sunbeam models all that well (without looking), but the presence of a Model 95 and Lion in your new book says later than 1930.

I realise that Cardan, but all is grist to the Sunbeam mill........

thanks Ian for that photo, it all helps,  a few of those tools are only pressed out stuff, the sort of  unmarked thing thats found in boxes of rusty old tools a jumbles etc. mostly asssumed to be push bike spanners.

British Bikes / Re: any vintage sunbeam fans on here?
« on: June 13, 2015, 08:16:25 AM »
yes, I saw that manual, but at 75 quid my curiosity stops

I havejust bought for 15 one that allegedly covers Models 95, 8, 250 Longstroke, Lion; looks to be about 1930, we shall see soon enough;

Would a ZXRRFERSA 1000  have any tools? I used to have lovely little wooden cups for a Model H Triumph that held a valve, a spring and its collets, and with the little gizmo supplied one could change a valve by the side of the road.
add to our tool box a couple of belt links and a spare tube you were all set.

I have couple of decent  puncture repair kits in little tin boxes about 3in square which are a little tool box in themselves.

Not needing those things might be progess but I much prefer the old way.

British Bikes / Re: any vintage sunbeam fans on here?
« on: June 12, 2015, 04:49:06 PM »
rummaging about the net I found this about tool kits, from 1926 bikes I believe.
It'd be interesting to see pics of same.

Sunbeam tools

The 1926 manual contains a full list of the tools supplied. These can vary slightly from model to model, but basically the list is:
Double ended bent spanner
D/E open spanner 1/4 x 5/16
D/E ring spanner Large
D/E ring spanner Medium
D/E ring spanner Small
Spanner for valve caps and exhaust pipe nut
Spanner for adjusting tappets, rear chain and rear brake
Adjustable spanner
Screw for withdrawing mag sprocket
Mag spanner
Tool for replacing gudgeon pin
Tube spanner 1/4 x 5/16
Screw for with drawing cush drive centre piece
Spanner for locknuts on inlet pipe and gearbox sprocket.

The Classic Biker Bar / Re: What a find
« on: June 12, 2015, 04:47:17 PM »
I had a Peugeot 505 estate a few years back, 2 litre turbo diesel with a 5 speed manual box, fantastic torque, I could put in 5th gear from the west country and drive to the 154 + mile to the channel tunnel without ever changing gear; got written off in France by a mad french woman in a Mazda of all things >:( >:(

I am also fond of old agricultural machinery using both Merry Tiller  and Wheel Horse tractor regularly.

I always rather liked those Mk9 Jags, quite  brute of a car, shame there are so few left; I remember a fellow apprentice buying one for 75quid around 1965/6, god knows how he could afford to run it, and we always suspected insurance didn't figure in running costs.

I disagree about the arguments though; I have abandoned several sites because of characters like bentley 8, or the posters that ask for advice and then tell you you don't know what you are talking about.

I also suspect bentley is very similar to a verbose troll on another site I used to use, except that ones spelling was better.

The Classic Biker Bar / Re: What a find
« on: June 08, 2015, 08:41:44 PM »
blimey what a spat, sorry to have missed it live.

I live in a nice house too, and I have a 1988 Peugeot 205, when I open the doors I can smell wet dog and compost.

luxury schmuckury...its cheap and cheerful. ;)

British Bikes / Re: any vintage sunbeam fans on here?
« on: June 08, 2015, 04:42:23 PM »
Good to see I am not alone re the 'pay as you go' forums; after all there is no guarantee they'll exist for the time of the sub. I don't need any more magazines either.

The Lion is a great touring bike, the later ones with the Burman box do not have the refinements of the early ones but remove the worry of gearbox spares for the crash boxes which have suffered lot, mostly due to owners not understanding the role of the clutch stop.

I have always wanted one of the '38/39 AMC Sunbeams but they are few and far between now, and I am no longer buying bikes.

There is a charm about 1920's Sunbeams that is hard to put into words; for me its knowing that I have a bike that was hand made and assembled by one man who took pride in his work; little things like finding the testers/foremans  initials on various parts.
The high survival rate of Sunbeams is proof of how much they are cherished.
Get on one on a quiet road on a summer evening and plod along with the engine just chuffling happily away...does it for me anyway.
My 'Beam is on the list of  my bikes that'll stay with me till I pop my clogs.

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