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Identify these bikes! / Re: Precision Big4 frame ?
« Last post by cardan on June 24, 2026, 12:33:34 AM »
Very nice. Could I have the frame number please? It is likely on the right side of the seat lug.

Re engine: depends a bit on the frame number. The early version of this frame was usually fitted with the overhead-inlet-valve Fafnir single, thus the very narrow lugs. When Healing gained access to Precision engines, they fitted 500s to this frame using aluminium spaces between the frame lug and the engine plates. Some of Healing's customers - maybe even Healing themselves - fitted the 4 1/4 hp Precision (600cc) to this frame, but to do so the front down tube had to be bent forwards because of the bigger crankcase. It would seem wrong to do this now. If a 600 Precision were fitted to this frame it would have had Precision on the magneto chain case. PRECISION BIG FOUR was a Healing trade name that was only used on the "new" bikes (in new frames) that came out around August 1913.

Anyway, I can guess engine based on frame number, as Fafnir engines in this frame stopped when the new Peerless frame came out in August 1912, but Precisions continued. It's such a nice frame - many have been cut down to lower the seat - that it would be a pity to put the wrong engine in it. Missing petrol tank is Davison and hubs were Chater Lea.

Leon
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British Bikes / Re: Coventry Eagle 1932
« Last post by cardan on June 24, 2026, 12:13:14 AM »
8D or (more likely, based on numbers built) 9D.

Here are the Cov Eagle images 33D6 refers to, in Radco's book. 1933, 150cc. The inlet manifold looks even longer than the one posted above!

Leon

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British Bikes / Re: Coventry Eagle 1932
« Last post by ramwing7 on June 23, 2026, 03:35:22 PM »
Any idea which Villiers engine this is?
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Identify these bikes! / Precision Big4 frame ?
« Last post by R on June 22, 2026, 11:18:28 PM »
Can anyone identify this ?

Would this be suitable for a Big4 engine / build ?

https://i.postimg.cc/tgT7Zg3Z/veteran-frame.jpg
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British Bikes / Re: My 1951 G2 Trials
« Last post by murdo on June 22, 2026, 08:04:39 AM »
Well update on the nuts. I could not find the correct sized bar at any of the local steel merchants, so even looking at internet sellers gave no joy. The price of a tap to use once or twice was prohibitive so I just counted up the number I needed and added then to my Hiscocks order. Still not cheap but will be the right size and should fit with no dramas.
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British Bikes / Re: Coventry Eagle 1932
« Last post by R on June 21, 2026, 10:19:28 PM »
Villiers loved those curly-whirly manifolds.
Keep your eyes peeled, this one is about the exact mirror image ?
Good luck.

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British Bikes / Re: Coventry Eagle 1932
« Last post by ramwing7 on June 20, 2026, 02:58:31 PM »
Thanks folks.  You have to love the vintage motorcycle community.  No matter how unusual the bike is or how strange the problem, somebody out there has ideas and tips they are willing to share.
I'm off pursuing some of these now.
Thanks.
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British Bikes / Re: Coventry Eagle 1932
« Last post by R on June 20, 2026, 03:38:59 AM »
'The Vintage Motorcyclists' Workshop" by Radco contains a full double page photo

Split across 2 pages it must be noted. The manifold is slap bang in the page join !
All the online scans are awful in the picture dept, they must have scanned a photocopy

I've done some lost wax casting.
Doing a curly plaster central core of the actual gas pathway and coating it with wax to a suitable depth and then coating the whole
shebang in more fireproof plaster is possibly the simplest method ?  You'd have to find a foundry that does this type of casting.
Simpler than it sounds, and cheaper as a one off than making moulds and core moulds.
The cast metal very accurately replicates the finish on the wax - so you could inscribe your image on it !
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British Bikes / Re: Coventry Eagle 1932
« Last post by 33d6 on June 19, 2026, 02:58:03 AM »
If you want a really good picture of an original manifold, 'The Vintage Motorcyclists' Workshop" by Radco contains a full double page photo of his restoration of the same model. Pages 180 and 181 to be precise. Its a photo of the timing side so gives you a good view of the manifold.
Radco also wrote a fairly extensive article on restoring the engine for the Vintage Motor Cycle Club Journal. This would be back in the late 70's. early 80's as his book was published in 1986 and was mainly a compendium of all the restoration articles he had written for the Journal over the years.
He wasn't complimentary about the engine but I think anyone trying to beat Villiers at their own game back in the early 30's would have had a tough job. In the end Cov Eagle came back to the Villiers fold. They made a better and cheaper product.
All that aside I think looking at 3D printing is the way to go. I've made one batch of inlet manifolds. Made the patterns, got them cast and then machined the result. It is not as simple as it looks. Making a pattern the foundry was happy with was a learning curve in itself but the big pain was making a range of jigs and fixtures to hold the castings so I could machine them afterwards. Not as simple as it looks. I realised early on that making a batch was no harder nor dearer than making one so a batch it was. No one was interested in my efforts nor wished to help nor put money in until I appeared with the completed batch when desperate owners needing one just appeared out of the woodwork. All the extras went amazingly quickly.
It's 3D printing for me nowadays and that is more involved than you expect.
Have fun.
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British Bikes / Re: Excelsior - or even Waratah - around 1924
« Last post by 33d6 on June 19, 2026, 02:17:57 AM »
This may be helpful searching for commercial catalogues or not but our State Library has also improved its website and search function so you can really drill down and hunt out really obscure stuff. Its surprising what they have.
They also give lots of info on where stuff is held elsewhere and occasionally you can access it through their site.
Most old motorcycle stuff is now held off site and may take up to five business days to arrive. This is absolutely no problem as they run a 'click and collect' service. Order what you want from home, they acknowledge the order, then text you when its arrived to look at. They will hold it for five days before returning it to the archives and will hold it longer if you ask. They really make it easy.
As you can gather I'm a big fan. Have a browse.
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