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Identify these bikes! / Re: Sun Overlander ?
« Last post by 33d6 on April 02, 2020, 03:55:04 AM »
It is a nice and clean looking jigger isnít it. If that little tinware is missing and you have the other side as a mirror image pattern it shouldnít be so hard to have made what you need.
You could approach the AOMC for a look at the old Sun rego cards. There canít be that many of them to shuffle through. May have some useful info. It will certainly make clear what came into Victoria.
The UK VMCC library has a selection of possibly useful Sun material but they say a lot of it consists of poor photocopies. Better than nothing I suppose.
Finally there is Mortonís. Your lower Overlander photo appears to have come from an old Motorcycle or Motorcycling roadtest. Mortonís will have the original plus probably all the photos taken for the roadtest. Could be useful for different shots of the tinware. Worth a try. They may have other Sun material as well.
Very last thing. You could spend an entertaining afternoon in the State Library going through their copies of MotorCycling. It takes willpower to churn through eighteen months worth of magazines in an afternoon without being distracted by interesting articles but doable if youíre determined.
Identify these bikes! / Re: Sun Overlander ?
« Last post by R on April 01, 2020, 11:45:53 PM »
The National MC Museum sell the range of BMS brochure reprints, I see they have a 1958 one.
Nothing on the net visible, like you say.

That is a very bright shade of silver-blue !
The colour inside that guard looks more like an authentic polychromatic silver-blue (??) of the 1950s.
Japanese Bikes / Identify Forks
« Last post by PMPiper on April 01, 2020, 11:00:21 PM »
I have these set of forks that were bolted to a Honda CL77 that are not Honda. I'm sure they're late 60's or early 70's. Can anyone identify them.  Thanks
Autojumble / Re: 350 X 18 SCRAMBLER REAR TYRE WANTED
« Last post by beardyimpman on April 01, 2020, 10:05:53 PM »
British Bikes / Re: Exhaust Pipes for TriBSA
« Last post by SteveW on April 01, 2020, 04:44:24 PM »
I've used Den at Allden numerous times and have been very satisfied with his work at a reasonable price
Identify these bikes! / Re: Sun Overlander ?
« Last post by merry1 on April 01, 2020, 01:04:09 PM »
I believe the colour is Polychromatice Blue as in the ad
Identify these bikes! / Re: Sun Overlander ?
« Last post by merry1 on April 01, 2020, 12:57:19 PM »
Tnak badge is the same as this but is Blue & Silver
Identify these bikes! / Re: Sun Overlander ?
« Last post by merry1 on April 01, 2020, 12:36:10 PM »
Hi, thanks for the help, I picked the bike up from a friend I know down Warrnambool in Victoria   who is a Norton Man & it came from a deceased estate lot that he picked up. I thought that it would come as a very nice bike if I could find the engine which so far has eluded me.  Was The Wasp & Overlander identical except for the engine, I have put another photo up as it shows every thing I have for the bike, I think the only thing really missing apart from the engine is the offside rear louver panel, it is identical with the photo except for the twin engine which is why I could not work out what model it was.    I have not been able to locate a  photo of the "Century"  any where on the net. I still would not mind a parts book as it is all packed into a 100Lt tub & they are handy to see what is missing & what isn't.
Identify these bikes! / Re: Sun Overlander ?
« Last post by Mark M on April 01, 2020, 09:53:20 AM »
Sorry, bit of a tangential question here but I think the OP has had his answer! I notice in the second frame picture that the bottom bracket casting (it is reminiscent of a bicycle component perhaps unsurprisingly,) has a distinctive raised triangle casting identification mark? Is this the mark for the Sun component company? It also appears on a lot of Royal Enfield cast iron components including the head stock castings and I've often wondered who made it.
Thanks for the mental stimulation,
REgards, Mark
Identify these bikes! / Re: Sun Overlander ?
« Last post by 33d6 on April 01, 2020, 07:11:40 AM »
Hi Richard,
The closest I can get to that frame number is 200 XMC.SA for the 9E/4 powered Wasp for 1957. The Century frame number is plain XCMC.SA and powered by a 3 speed 8E. I suspect you have the remains of a Wasp. Where did it come from?
Supposedly all postwar Villiers power units shared the same engine mounting dimensions so are readily interchangeable and so far (so far so good) I've found this correct, so theoretically you can repair your frame taking measurements from any postwar Villiers engine to hand and it will be okay for when the correct power unit turns up.

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