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European and Other Bikes / New toy
« Last post by The Artful Bodger on October 19, 2017, 11:09:04 PM »
Hi All, just went mad and bought what I believe is a 1926 Magnat Debon 250. I know nothing about these so am wondering if anyone out there has something similar or some experience with these beasties?
 It's been sitting in a French barn for many years and is about 80% complete, fortunately although very rusty the frame and all the tin ware is sound.
  Hopefully I can touch base with someone with some knowledge please??

 Colin
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Autojumble / Autojumble to be held at next KICKBACK Motorcycle Show
« Last post by kickback on October 17, 2017, 08:54:49 AM »
The organisers of the KICKBACK Motorcycle Show have announced that there will be an AutoJumble at the next event which is at Stoneleigh Park in Warwickshire from 7-8 April 2018. Seller prices are from just 20 for both days and it's all indoors. Please email lorne@rwrw.co.uk for booking details. Every Autojumble Seller to book up will receive TWO free weekend show passes worth 24.
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The Classic Biker Bar / Re: what do I have?
« Last post by mini-me on October 14, 2017, 09:40:47 AM »
Yes, the wilfreds served  a very useful pupose in a time of naional need, in fact they were still in production in the 1950s.

I'd give one a home if it was free but as for the  ridiculous prices being asked for them in some quarters.............

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-HUDSON-AUTO-CYCLE-98cc-1956-/263249474879?hash=item3d4ae4353f:g:V4AAAOSwbZJZpoCa

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NORMAN-98cc-Autocycle-Classic-Vintage-Junior-de-luxe-Villiers-Engine-/132334533901?hash=item1ecfc0bd0d:g:f7gAAOSwb3NZtSUA

Its good to see some dealers still have a sense of humour.
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The Classic Biker Bar / Re: what do I have?
« Last post by 33d6 on October 14, 2017, 12:18:55 AM »
I lean even further towards the frame numbered 8M/**** being a Malvern Star. My old Vic Police book show the last of them being numbered in that type of sequence. For example, the 1951 Malvern Star frame was numbered 51M/****. I would look more closely at the frame, it may have a poorly stamped 4 before the 8 or it may be that in 1950 the maker realised they needed more than just the year stamped on so included the decade as well.
I'll also reinforce RTW remarks that AAU identifies an Aberdale. Thats what I find as well.
The 608/ engine prefix was also used by Aberdale so you have the original engine still sitting in the wee beast.
Mini me is also dead right in saying these things were beloved of district nurses and vicars. It was a deliberate decision by wartime authorities. Some community workers like them could be called out at any time night or day to places with no public transport and where a bicycle was impracticable. In such cases they would be issued with an autocycle as being absolutely the cheapest form of  transport available. They took minimal material to make and used the least petrol so they diverted a minimal amount of resources from the war effort. It's easy to find old wartime publicity  photos of district nurses being issued with their Wilfred.
Cheers, 
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The Classic Biker Bar / Re: what do I have?
« Last post by mini-me on October 13, 2017, 09:21:20 PM »
pre war those autocycles were generically known as Wilfreds. Beloved of district nurses and vicars, if you get to ride it turn your collar back to front.

 They all looked virtually the same.   My very first 'powered' two wheeler was an Excelsior Autobyke. I never got it going but learnt a lot from it, like bikes won't run without sparks, or piston rings and on paraffin the tank.

It gave me and my brother some useful exercise pushing it up and down the garden in the hope it might start one day.
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The Classic Biker Bar / Re: what do I have?
« Last post by rtw on October 13, 2017, 11:51:47 AM »
After a few hours of searching I have concluded AAU prefix is for an Aberdale! Its believed less than 2000 were manufactured with the highest number recorded of 1328. http://www.icenicam.org.uk/articles/art0006.html
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The Classic Biker Bar / Re: New to restoring
« Last post by rtw on October 13, 2017, 08:31:30 AM »
Bit pricey, but thanks. I will send them an email!
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The Classic Biker Bar / Re: what do I have?
« Last post by rtw on October 13, 2017, 02:14:14 AM »
The frame with no engine and the 2 stars on the head--------- 8M 16282

The bike with motor --------------- frame AAU726
The number cast  on the engine sleeve or case B5764
The number stamped on the alloy lower housing is 608/20791
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The Classic Biker Bar / Re: New to restoring
« Last post by rtw on October 13, 2017, 01:56:27 AM »
No
It's like this but I think this is the wrong hand!
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